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Post by CAChiefsFan on Mar 15, 2005 9:16:19 GMT -5
Posted on Tue, Mar. 15, 2005
No offer imminent while foot healing
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The Chiefs' long-anticipated meeting with Ty Law began Monday with his arrival in Kansas City. But president/general manager Carl Peterson indicated that no contract agreement with Law, a four-time Pro Bowl cornerback, would be imminent.
The issue is a fractured foot that caused Law to miss the last half of last season.
“I can tell you right now without even talking to our doctor that Ty Law couldn't pass a physical right now in the National Football League,” Peterson said. “That's a very important aspect we have to look at.
“I would not offer him a contract today based on where he is. That would be foolish of anyone. In all probability, what we would like to do is bring him back in a little bit later in free-agency and see what kind of progress he's making.”
On his credentials alone, there's little debate that Law, 31, is right for the Chiefs in their search for a starting cornerback. Law was one of the NFL's top cornerbacks in 10 seasons with the Patriots.
But the foot injury complicates the matter. So, the Chiefs were eager for medical information on Law as much as anything.
Law's agent, Carl Poston, indicated the Chiefs would be pleased with what they learned in that regard.
“Healthwise, he's fine,” said Poston, who added that Law is wearing a walking boot on his injured foot. “His doctor says he's way ahead of schedule. He'll be ready for the start of the season. He'll be ready for the start of training camp, assuming there's no setback.”
Law is the last of the available, top-level free-agent cornerbacks. The Chiefs met two weeks ago with Samari Rolle and indicated plans to speak with Fred Smoot and Ken Lucas — but they all signed with other teams.
The Chiefs met last week with another cornerback, Denver's Kelly Herndon.
A broad market for Law should develop if he proves he is healthy. He already met with his hometown Pittsburgh Steelers, but the Steelers indicated the visit was more at his request than theirs.
More visits loom, according to Poston, but the Chiefs are first in line.
“He's only coming,” Poston said, “because he's serious about playing for Kansas City.”
The Chiefs were also scheduled to meet with Philadelphia's Keith Adams, indicating the recent signing of Kendrell Bell doesn't mean they are finished with their pursuit of free-agent linebackers.
Adams, 25, has mainly been a special-teams player but started in the NFC championship game and Super Bowl last season. At 5 feet 11 and 223 pounds, he is undersized but has good speed and covers a lot of ground.
“Right now, I'm looking for football players,” Peterson said when asked whether the Chiefs were looking at Adams as a starter. “I'll let the competition determine starters and non-starters.”
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Post by Primusgod on Mar 15, 2005 12:59:14 GMT -5
Our "BIG" free agency period, the first where Carl was supposed to release the purse strings, the time when we were supposed to improve our defense so much, we sign one stinking LB and a backup SS. What in the hell. It seems I am cursed with this f to the ucking Kansas City Cheeps. They have done absolutely nothing to fix the worst secondary in the NFL and they are pleased with their progress. f**k King Carl and f**k the dumbass Lamar (C)UNT . They deserve eachother.
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Post by CAChiefsFan on Mar 15, 2005 14:24:18 GMT -5
Lol I don't know about a backup ss and a stinking linebacker. Knight has excellent leadership and saftey skills and guaranteed will start over both of our safties and barring injury Bell is a bonified stud. I don't think Carl did enough but jeez dude pull yourself out of the doom and gloom zone and wakeup to reality.
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Post by Primusgod on Mar 15, 2005 21:26:58 GMT -5
I don't see where Knight is a vast upgrade to either Woods or Wesley. W&W didn't play as well last year, but Knight wasn't exactly a stud as I remember it either.
By stinking I was refering to the number of linebackers signed in a time where there were a number of excellent quality, reasonably priced linebackers available. As far as I know, Bell has no odor problems or a lack of personal hygeine either. I have repeatedly stated how happy I was with his signing and his ability (read previous posts). Unfortunately I am firmly grounded in reality, being a Chief fan, and I am suffering through yet another lack-luster free agency period.
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Post by CAChiefsFan on Mar 16, 2005 0:09:00 GMT -5
Knight has everything W&W don't have. He has leadership skils, he is faster, he forces more turnovers, he plays with much more intensity, he is a better cover saftey, those aren't enough for you?
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Post by Primusgod on Mar 16, 2005 1:56:29 GMT -5
Knight WAS a good safty... three years ago. He has been middle of the pack since his pro bowl years in New Orleans. Wes is the bigger hitter of the two. I just don't see where he is a HUGE improvement over what we have. Don't forget, Woods and Wesley have been to the pro bowl too. Both have had good years in the past that compare to Knight. Wood has had some high turnover years too. Woods didn't play well last year. Neither did Wesley. If they don't play well, Knight will likely beat them out of a job. But Knight isn't hands down better than either of these guys. He is faster than either W or W, but he doesn't play with any more intensity than Wes.
Some facts;
Wesley has 15 fewer ints in 50+ fewer games
Has 200 fewer tackles
has one fewer forced fumble
had as many if not more INT's as Knight last year
Woods has caused 3 more fumbles in five fewer games
has 15 fewer int's, but has been more consistant over the years
has about 80 fewer tackles which averages out to just about 1.5 a game more for Knight.
Where is the added intensity? Where is the Leadership? Where are the stats to prove he's so much better than W or W? The stats prove it, he's no better, no worse than these guys when they are all healthy. If anything, Wesley is a bit better.
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Post by CAChiefsFan on Mar 16, 2005 10:21:26 GMT -5
Knight is a Ball hawk which neither of our safties are, knight had 4 picks last year when woods had zero. I guess you held a hitting contest because according to all the coaches knight is a much harder hitter than Wesley or Woods. We all know that Woods was instrumental in helping get Gunther back to KC so tell me why if Knight was not a large improvement Gunther would allow him to possibly be released? I'll tell you why cause he is old, slow and sucks. Like I read in another article you have to play really bad for someone to notice a saftey is playing bad. As far as your stats go, if everything that matters is stats to you then you don't know football, les you forget that the dolphins have Surtain on one side and Sam Madison on the other. Don't you think those two guys may pick up alot of the interceptions before they ever get to the safties? Still Knight had 4 picks as many as wesley had while woods had 0 with all the chances they had that is sad. Next you have the element of competition, Woods and Wesley will be fighting for one starting spot maybe just maybe it will cause them to pick up their intensity and play to the levels they did before the big contract. Maybe if you stopped looking at the glass as half empty and trying to bash a guy before he even gets a chance you might enjoy football...................
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Splat
Rookie Free Agent
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Post by Splat on Mar 16, 2005 18:44:53 GMT -5
Thats right lol!
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Post by Primusgod on Mar 16, 2005 19:59:56 GMT -5
I'll enjoy football again when the Chiefs start winning. How can you say Knight is a harder hitter than Wesley if you've never seen him practice? Post the QUOTE where Gunther (or anyone) said he hits harder than Wesley. Knight has yet to wear a Chiefs uniform and you have him beating out BOTH W & W. You seem to be bashing both our safties, but get pissy when someone questions your guy. Can't have it both ways dude. Knight is no better than Wes, Wes is younger, Wes has caused almost as many turnovers on a BAD team in FEWER years. Stats DO matter to a point. What you don't seem to understand (or don't even make an attempt to) is I wasn't making a statement about Knight's ability as much as I was about the LACK on the part of the Chiefs to IMPROVE when there were players available and in our price range. Can you deny Smoot would have been a vast improvement over any of our CB's and at a reasonable price? Knight ISN'T a great improvement over Wes and won't be if Woods returns to form. I haven't been happy with Woods play over the past year. I thought Wes played under his ability last year. The competition will be a good thing. The best guys will make the field. My complaint is the apparent lack of concern over having the absolute worst defense in the NFL. We need more than a starting LB and some competition at Safty. We NEED two starting CB's. I did say he was a backup saftey, but that's because I dont think he's hands down better than W or W. He's a decent pickup because if either doesn't improve their play, he'll take their position. But he isn't a CB. IMO, CB is our weakest position.
As for how much football I know, it isn't your place to tell me my opinions are invalid. An opinion is an opinion. You have your's and I have mine. Neither is technically wrong, Viper (Buckeye Chief) and I hashed this out YEARS before you started posting here and I have no desire to do it again with you. We can agree to disagree without resorting to the "I'm a better football fan than YOU" crap. You are a glass is half full kind of guy. After 35 years of losing Chief teams, I've paid my dues and am allowed to be a half empty guy. Neither view is wrong, the glass is both half full and half empty, but I don't need you reading my petigree because you disagree. Post your opinions without the personal attacks please.
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Post by CAChiefsFan on Mar 16, 2005 22:56:17 GMT -5
There's one of many I have read stating that Knight will be a starter. Common sense will tell you that the guy wouldn't have signed here if he wasn't going to be.
Would you like me to dig up more? Opinions are that just opinions, luckily guys like you and I don't evaluate talent.
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Post by Primusgod on Mar 17, 2005 8:51:43 GMT -5
see below
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Post by Primusgod on Mar 17, 2005 8:55:11 GMT -5
"Post the QUOTE where Gunther (or anyone) said he hits harder than Wesley."
ot ONCE do they say Knight hits harder than Wesley OR Woods. Not ONCE. They just signed the guy, what do you expect them to say? " Well he sucks, but we signed him anyway... don't expect him to start.... Can't hit for nuts..." no, they are going to pump him up. Completely understandable. They do point out his leadership ability being better than that we have now, I'll give you that. But NO WHERE does it say that he hits harder than either of our current safties.
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Post by CAChiefsFan on Mar 17, 2005 11:37:54 GMT -5
Whatever you say Jack I'm not going to argue with the wall. Just keep looking at things through your doom and gloom glasses it sounds like you enjoy it that way.
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Post by Primusgod on Mar 17, 2005 23:34:11 GMT -5
I disagree
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Post by Primusgod on Mar 17, 2005 23:35:28 GMT -5
Maybe you should take off the rose colored glasses BUD and live in the real freaking world for a change...now isn't THIS mature. You sir are not worth talking to anymore.
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